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M为主持人，1为被访者吴爱卿
M Interviewer 1. Wu Aiqing
M：您先核对一下基本信息，您今年23岁是吗？
Please check the basic information about you. Are you 23?
1：对。
Yes.
M：您是做外包？
And you are doing business about external packing?
1：对，外包。
Yes, external packing.
M：然后您有没有自己的手提电脑，然后是什么样子的，什么牌子的？可以拿出来吗？
Do you have your own laptop? What′s it like and what′s the brand of it? Could you show us about it?
1：可以。就拿笔记本电脑是吗？
Sure. Just my laptop?
M：对。还有手机。
Yes, and also your mobile phone.
1：ipad可以吗？
Is ipad OK?
M：可以啊。好拿的话。
OK, if you are fine with that.
1：iphone。
M：那您应该很清楚触屏的感觉，因为您平常一直在玩这个。
Then you are quite familiar with the touchscreen because you use it all days.
1：对。
Yes.
M：您触屏用下来觉得怎么样，有什么感受、体验？
How do you find the touchscreen?
1：用着还好。
Good.
M：然后能描述一下吗？
Can you be more specific?
1：就是使用起来还蛮方便的，然后玩游戏啊都不错。
It′s very convenient to use and the games are also pretty cool.
M：您觉得就是用手触屏的这个感受，因为就是摸起来，它使用起来好不好呀，好不好用，灵敏度啊这个，耐用程度啊？
How do you find the touchscreen, about its smartness and its quality? Is it very durable?
1：这两年用起来都不错，因为iphone的产品，特别这一款做得还蛮好的，玩游戏的话也蛮爽的。
The performance is good within these two years because the brand of iphone especially this type. I feel very good about the games.
M：那现在如果自己在用电脑的时候，你会或者不是电脑，就是其他电子器件，你觉得触屏会优于鼠标，还有电脑上面，咱们手提电脑上面这个触板吗，就是下面这个？
What do you feel about the usage of your computer and ofcourse other electronic products? For example, do you think touchscreen is beneficial than mouse and the touchpad?
1：那要分情况，如果你是办公的话，就是写一些邮件，或者做一个项目啊，它可能就是说用到那些鼠标跟键盘的比较多，如果说纯粹的玩游戏，或者出去逛街什么的，放松的时候，可能就是触屏比较多一点。
That depends. If you are at work, in the office, you probably need to send and receive emails. Or if you are in charge of a project, you will use more frequently the mouse and the keyboard. However, if you are just playing games for fun or you are going shopping, you are at relax and then you may use touchscreen more often.
M：她说的是触板，就是电脑里面的触板，下面那个。那个有用吗？
She is talking about the touchpad of the laptop. The one below. Do you use that?
1：那个现在基本上不用了。
Generally speaking, I don′t use it.
M：那您觉得假如说有一款电脑，手提电脑它屏幕是可以，是触屏，整个这个显示器是触屏，您觉得这个产品有吸引力吗？
How do you find a laptop that equipped with touchscreen, the whole monitor? Do you find that attractive？
1：就是笔记本是吗，整个是触屏的？
You mean laptop？ The monitor is touchscreen？
M：嗯。
Yes.
1：如果办公起来的话，肯定是不行，肯定不是…
For work, definitely no. It cannot work...
M：不，它还是一个笔记本电脑，下面有键盘。
No, it′s still a notebook with keyboard below.
1：有键盘是吧，那个还行，那个不影响。就是说用的话，它这个触屏你如果需要用的话就用，不需要用的话就不用。接着说。
With keyboard, then it′s fine. It doesn′t matter. And you can use the touchscreen if it′s necessary. Keep going.
M：那我们刚才说的就是这个电脑有触屏，有键盘，下面那个小触板，就是可以取代，就可以完全不要它？
Just as mentioned, the laptop is equipped with touchscreen and touchpad. And the small touchpad can totally be replaced, right?
1：就是完全撤掉下面那个小板？
You mean to abandon the touch plate?
M：对。
Yes.
1：可以。鼠标可以继续用是吧？
That′s all right. I can use the mouse, right?
M：对。
Yes.
1：那可以，我觉得可以。
That′s all right. I think that′s fine.
M：那就是说要是触板留一半，您觉得这个，就完全不需要了还是说留一半会好一点，哪怕有盘就好一点儿，哪怕小一点？
How do you think about keep half of the touchpad, even just only a small plate?
1：我觉得可以不需要了，需要更简单一点，更快捷一点，就有一个显示屏，触屏，鼠标点一点就OK了，就不需要那个东西了。
I don′t think so. The simpler, the better and the faster. One monitor, one touchscreen, and one click on the mouse, everything is done. We don′t need the plate.
M：您有用手写笔的经历吗？
Have you ever used writing pen?
1：没有，那个我从来没有用过。
No, I never use that before.
M：没试过？
Even tried?
1：没试过，也没用。
Not even tried.
M：那你比如说有没有周围人有用，或者设想一下那个怎么样，爸爸妈妈有没有用过什么的？
Or what about people around you? Or can you image that? Have your parents ever used it?
1：没有，我爸妈没见过他们用过，爸妈不怎么用。
No, I don′t see my parents use that. They don′t quite often use it.
M：你想想一下那个触屏笔有什么感觉？
Can you image the touchscreen pen?
1：手写笔那个东西，想象一下什么感觉？
What′s my feelings about the writing pen?
M：就是您觉得如果要用手写笔去，在触屏上写字工作的话？
I mean what do you feel about writing on the screen using the pen?
1：就是办公用到手写笔？
You mean when I am at work?
M：或者不管办不办公吧，就是你用触屏的时候，用到触屏笔的话，手写笔。
Whether you are at work or not and how do you find the pen?
1：用到，我现在还没想到在哪些地方可以用到，我感觉这个东西的话，现在基本上已经，对我来说已经没有什么意义了，不去用它，不管是打字啊，还是玩游戏用到它我还可以考虑考虑，但是办公的话，我估计完全用不到。
I cannot figure out where I can use it. For the moment, it′s not very useful to me either at work or at leisure. Maybe I will consider it when I play games. But never for office job.
M：然后我们现在就请你实际的试验一下，我们这个新产品，就是它这个电脑有两个特点，一个就是它的显示屏是触屏的，全触屏，然后另一个它装了最新的win8系统，win8是专门为触屏而造的，整个电脑装的这个系统，电脑的操作系统是win8的。
Then we want you to experience this new product. It has two obvious features: first the monitor is touchscreen and second it′s equipped with win 8. Win 8 is specially designed for touchscreen and the operating system is win 8.
1：哪个牌子？
Which brand?
M：你说电脑是哪个牌子？
You refer to the laptop?
1：电脑。
The laptop.
M：电脑没有牌子，是他们试用的一个产品。
Not any brands. It′s the product on trail.
1：我懂了。
I see.
M：你可以试用一下。
Please have a try.
1：行啊。
OK.
M：反馈一下。
So what do you say?
1：行，行，行。就是它的性能吧，做反馈？
Fine, fine. You mean my opinions about it?
M：对，等一下它会，一个一个按它这个走一下。她不是要，主要是看这个硬件的使用情况啊，快不快，还有系统的相互界面啊，还有这些上面让你试用的一些小程序的好不好用什么的，它主要是想观察和让您体验一下那个触屏，触摸的这种技术，主要是这个，不是这个机器好不好用，就本身硬件怎么样。刚开始主要先让你熟悉一下我们这种介入的方式，一种你可以直接触屏去交互，也可以用这个手写笔这一头软头的去接触屏幕，去做操作，另外还可以用触摸板，就是先玩一玩熟悉熟悉，再下一步我们再根据她的指令去做一些操作。然后我们再熟悉一下，因为它不是说用手，或者用手写笔的时候，不是越使劲才能把相关的点开，它是你要找着感觉以后，你就知道怎么去挪动它了，就是手应该没问题。
Yes. Then you may follow guide step by step. And she wants to see whether the hardware is good and others like its speed and the interaction between system. And you may want to try these little programs and share with us your feelings about the touchscreen. It′s more about the hardware than the machine. The important thing is that you get familiar with our way. You can operate it directly with your fingers or touch the screen with the writing pen with soft head. And you can also use the touchpad. Why not you play for a while and then you can do experiment following her guide. Then you will be more familiar with the program. Either you use your fingers or the pen, it′s unnecessary to exert all your strength to open something. All you have to do is to find your feeling about it. In another word, there will be no problem if you know how to move it.
1：可以点吗？
Can I click it?
M：可以啊。不要特别用劲，停一下。这个是链接吗，可以打开，应该可以打开，点一下试试。
Sure. Just don′t exert all your strength. Could you stop here. Is this the link? I think you can open it. Give it a try.
1：点了没反应。
Nothing happened.
M：往这边操作，可以坐过来。速度有点儿慢，你使用一下。从这儿打开。然后那个笔。还有一个就是要回到主屏幕的，有两种方式，一个是按这个小窗的图标，就回来这个主界面了，还有一种方式是从这个屏幕右方那个黑处滑过来，点这个小窗，也就过来了。然后我们刚才总的试了一下，现在在这个上分别用自己的手指，还有这个手写笔，在这个上面写写字。
You may come over here to operate. It′s a bit slow. Please give a try. You may open it from here. And get your pen please. One more thing is to go back to the main screen. You have two ways to do that. One way is to press on this icon and you can come back to the main page. The other way is to slip from the dark part on right of the screen and click on this window and there you are. Just now we make a general operation. Now you can write something with your finger and then with this pen.
1：写字是吗？
I write something?
M：嗯。就是往上滑的。就是用这个手写笔写字的时候，有什么感觉不一样的？
Yes, slide up. And do you find the difference between using your finger and the pen?
1：感觉不一样啊？
Any difference?
M：感觉不同？
Any difference.
1：一个用手写，一个用笔写？
Between using my finger and using the pen?
M：对。
Yes.
1：其他好像还好，操作，这个笔用起来还行，就可能就是说用这个写的话，可能没有这个手快，如果拿手写的话，它会快一点，如果用笔写的话，它会慢一些，一些区别。
Not too much difference except that I feel that it′s faster to write with my finger than the pen. The pen is slower, that′s the difference.
M：您觉得就是这个反应稍微有一点点慢，是指它写完以后，就是用它写完之后，这个字出来慢？还是写的费劲？
You find that the pen doesn′t react so fast and the character show up slowly? Or the pen is not easy to write?
1：因为比如说，像这个你这个手指是直的，手画就上去了，如果你用笔写的话，你首先你要挪这个笔，你首先要把笔挪动，这个东西可能有一点，可能有两个程序，先挪动笔再写，用手的话，一拉就可以了。
I mean, you can directly write with your finger, however, you have to get this pen work first and then write. It′s a little...maybe operated by two programs. Move the pen and then write. It′s simple with your finger. One drag is enough.
M：然后再下面就是我们再有一个还原，就是让你去试用一个小程序，试的时候，你可以用你自己熟悉的，喜欢的方式，最舒服的方式，和它人机互动，去操作，然后也是这三个，刚才我们说的一个手直接去滑，也可以用这个手写笔，也可以用这个触板。
Now let′s get it restored. Next please try another program with your favorite way, your own way to communicate with the computer and to operate. And ofcourse you have three methods: you directly touch it with your finger or you use the pen or you can use the touchpad.
1：随便我使用哪个？
I can pick up any of them?
M：对，不用特意在意说自己怎么选，就自己本能的去。
Yes, please follow your feeling to choose instead of reminding yourself the reason why you should choose it.
1：好。
All right.
M：没有什么对错，主要是想观察你喜欢哪一种方式。主要是要你观察自然的本能的，怎么去做。然后我翻译她的那个指示怎么做，第一步，第二步，第三步，你跟着她的操作来就可以了。打开这个word这个文件。
it′s just about which one is your love and your instinct to choose and to operate. I will be your translator and you may follow her instruction to operate: first step, second step and the third step.
It will be find to follow her. Please open the word.
1：对吧？
Right?
M：嗯。然后打开一个空白文档，是左上方的。然后就是这个上面就是根据这个，编辑文档的浮动方向。
Yes. And create a new blank word. Right on the left. And change the direction of the text.
1：这个是吗？
This one?
M：对，这块可以选它是纵向还是横向，第二个。然后选成是横向的。然后我们再插入一个表格，第二个，第三个，第四个，这个这个，还有你自己可以从左上角往下拖一个，然后咱们把那个单击一下空白处，那个没事儿，单击一下空白的页面就可以了。
Yes. And you can determine if it goes horizontal or vertical. The second. And please make it go horizontal. Now you need to insert a table. The second, the third and the fourth, yes, right here. And you can drag one from the left corner on the top. Now please click the blank area. That′s fine. Forget it. Just click the blank page.
1：打开了。
Now it′s open.
M：然后打一些字母，有输入法，多打几列。你选一下G，然后把这个G描红，把这个字母选择出来，选择然后编辑。你选了G了吗？
Could you type in some letters, the more the better? Please choose G and edit it. Have you chosen G?
1：嗯。
Yes.
M：点G，往左拖光，标往左。
Click G. And drag the icon to the left. To the left.
1：不好选，选不了。
It′s not easy to choose. I cannot do it.
M：哦，可以拖下面那个。把光标移上去，拖下面小圆圈。好了。插入一个，再插入图片，那个图片。
Oh, you can drag the one below. Please move the icon up and drag the little circle. All right then. Please insert one picture.
1：这个啊？
This one?
M：对。随便选一张你喜欢的。然后拖动它的斜角让它变小，整个文档斜角，斜角的那个是可以的，拖住了，点住了直接拖不要呆的时间太长，点中就直接拖，哪个斜角都可以。点中那个圆圈，点中那个圆圈，然后把它关掉，不用保存，不用选。要它回主屏，回到主屏，点那个演示文档，空白处，点空白的，然后单击，然后你插入一个文本框，对。
Yes. Please pick up any of them that you like. And make it smaller by dragging this slant angle of the whole page. Yes, press on it. Don′t stay that long. Click and drag. Any angle will be fine. Press on the circle. Please shut it down. There is no need to save it. Now back to the main screen, yes main screen. Open the demonstrated word and click the blank. There you insert a text frame. Right.
1：哪儿？
Where?
M：这儿。输入一下。
Here. Put in something.
1：输入什么？
Put in what?
M：字母。不要碰到那个小圆，框上面。其实这个像鼠标一样，就跟我们原来编辑文档一样，如果拿鼠标点这儿，不就是调形状的嘛，用手也是一样的，可以点住它的边框都可以，这样子，对对。然后再输入一个饼图，再插入这个柱状图，然后选饼图，把这上面的数字改一下，看会变吗，其中一个改一下。然后点到空白的地方，然后下面这个，把这个关了，然后把这个图缩小一下，然后移到左上方，对往下拖，把它移过来。点一下那个空白处，然后咱们插一个图片，也是再把它缩小以后，再把它移一下，图片，随便选一张，缩小一下，移动。然后把这个ABC选一下，然后让它变成粗体？
Letters. Don′t touch that little circle, above the frame. This works the same way as mouse. When you edit a text, you may click here with the mouse to change its shape. And you can also do that using your fingers. Just to touch the frame like this. Right, right. Now please insert a cake diagram and then a histogram. Choose the cake diagram and change the figure. Anything happened? Click on the blank area and the one below. Shut it down. And now reduce the diagram and move it up there to the left. Yes, drag it down and move it here. Click the blank area and insert a picture and reduce its size too. Yes, pick up any picture you want. Make it smaller and move it. And pick up the ABC to make them bold.
1：粗体？
Bold?
M：对。选一下B。光标移动一下。
Yes. Please pick up B. Move your cursor.
1：这样行吗？
Like this?
M：嗯。然后再点那个圆的那个。可以了。鼠标那儿黄的图标，下面这个第二个黄的这个屏幕，选一下这个，然后open打开它，然后这个剪裁的功能是把它，选中，然后选一个，其中任何一个尺寸，可以拖动它的边角，然后选一个完成，左边这个，然后有一个撤销，右下脚这个撤销，然后再回到主屏。好咱们再试一个，这上面那个图标，对单击，然后左下角这个图，然后显然下面还有一个就是剪裁的功能，第三个，第三个，在这个软件里面拖出来那个斜角拖你想选的那个大小、范围，左上角，点住一个地方拖向另一个，这不是要移动，是让你去剪裁，你要拖是一个范围，选中一个地方然后拖，再放开。然后再点一下那个剪裁这个。然后再选一下这个工具第四个，然后选最小那个，最细的那个。然后就是勾勒一下上面这个瀑布吧，就是这个轮廓，就是山的轮廓，还有下面的水，水的轮廓。
Yes. And then click the round one. All right. Yes. Click the yellow icon and the second yellow one on the screen. Choose it and open it. This is to cut it into proper size. You can drag its angle and edge to complete this. And pick up one to finish it. There is a cancel on the right down there. Then we are back to the main screen. OK. We may try another one. Click on this icon and you can see a picture below. Obviously, you can use the function of cut very easily. The third one. Drag the angle to form the shape in your favorite size. Yes, right on the left on the top. Press on it and drag it to another. It′s not to move something but to cut it into proper size. You need to have an area. Start from a place and drag and let it go. And you cut. Please choose the fourth, the smallest and the thinnest. Now you can shape something. What about the waterfall? This is mountain and water. It′s outline of them.
1：勾勒一下，随便画？
shape it? I can do what I want?
M：对。她说可不可以尽可能的跟这个轮廓，再描得精细一点。
Yes. She said you can try best to follow this outline and get it meticulously.
1：不用手可以吗？
I don′t use my fingers?
M：都可以啊，什么都可以，不一定用手。
As you like. You can use everything.
1：再精细一点，描一下。
Meticulous...draw.
M：你试一下那个手写笔。为啥觉得没有手好用呢，有什么区别呢？
You may try the pen. Why do you think it′s not so good to use as your fingers? What′s the difference?
1：因为手有触感，因为它这个东西的话，如果它是钢笔就好了，钢笔尖就好了。
Fingers have feelings, however, if it′s pen with pointed head, things will go better.
M：关掉。打开一个新的，这个是一个画图的软件，你点一个空白处，这些工具都会不见了，然后再滑下来，这些东西会出来，这边是选择绘画的，你可以先选一个铅笔，然后再选颜色，然后我们会要求你画一个房子，还有一棵树。
Please shut it up and create a new one. This is a software for drawing. One click on the blank part, all the tools will be gone. Now slip down, and these things show up again. This column is for drawing. You can pick up a pencil first and then colour. You may draw a house and a tree.
1：房子啊？
A house?
M：对。可以点空白的。你要画的话就是空白的。
Yes. Click on the blank area and then you can paint.
1：房子啊，那随便画了。
A house? Then I draw what I like.
M：嗯。
Yes.
1：这像房子吗？
Does this look like a house?
M：像。然后你可以选那个填充嘛，刷子工具，填充那个颜色。你选刷子那个，还有颜色。
Yes. Now you can choose the padding and the brush. Get it colour. And you can choose the brush and the colour.
1：然后呢？
And then?
M：这边可以选工具，涂，你知道涂吗，点空白的。再点一下。再回主屏。然后点这个。然后就是，和刚才一样，也是画一个房子，但是用一个不同的软件，之前有左侧这边，还是画图，先选铅笔，下面那个铅笔。
You can choose tools and paint it. Please click on the blank area. One more click. Now back to main screen. Then click on this one. Now just like before, draw a house with another software. You have the left column before. Now still draw a picture . Choose the pencil below first.
1：这个铅笔。还画房子？
This is the pencil and I still draw a house?
M：嗯。
Yes.
1：这个挺好的。
This is better.
M：你是说这个软件比刚才那个好用，是画画挺好的？
You mean this software is better than the last one, for the drawing?
1：比刚刚那个好，要是办公的话不会，如果是单纯的设计，设计师用的话，我觉得用这个比较好。
It′s better than that one. I think it′s pretty good for designers for design job, however, it′s not good for office job.
M：然后看一下刷子，上面的那个，这个笔上面那个刷子，然后选一个颜色，然后你用细的话，可以选那个尺寸大小。咱们在接下来试用的这个，不是想让你试用这个平板本身，主要是让你感受一下这个笔，你看这个手写笔它和刚刚那个头不一样，这个是尖头硬的，想让你试试这个用起来怎么样，这个是粗细、颜色，点空白的地方就可以。然后顺着你那个画一画，同时用这个笔写写字，你可以再点它就会出来颜色啊什么的，粗细啊什么的，这个是透明度，这个是粗细，点空白处。
Then look at the brush above the pen and pick up a colour. And you can adjust adjust its size, if you choose the thin one. Next we are going to try this. Her intention is to let you feel about the pen not the pad itself. You can see the head of this pen is different from the last one. It′s harder. Click the blank area with this pen, you can deal with colour or size. Then you follow it to draw a picture and use this pen to write something. With more click, you can have the colour and size at your requirement. This is for transparency and this is for bold. Please click the blank space.
1：哪个粗细？
Which one is for bold?
M：上面那个是粗细，你选这个就很，别的不会。这个很细，你要想粗一点儿，选B。可以试着画画，画一画。然后你觉得，尝试你觉得这个硬头的，和刚刚那个软头的哪个好用，什么感觉？
The one above is for bold. It′s not...for you to choose this one. Others cannot make it bold. This is thin. Choose B if you want it bold. Try to draw something. Now how do you think about the two: the one with hard head and the other with soft head?
1：当然是这个好用。
This one is better, ofcourse.
M：为什么具体一点儿，哪些方面比较好用？
Can you be more specific? In which aspects is it better than the other?
1：因为它精确。然后写字，它毕竟是笔尖，笔尖跟那种，更多的还是接触面积啊。
It′s very accurate. One more thing is that the pointed head of the pen is good for writing. What′s more, it has touch area.
M：如果要是我们刚才在那个上面演示的时候，刚刚那个电脑上，如果是有这个笔的话，你会用自己的手去进行操作，还是用这个笔？
Then which one will you choose to use, your hand or this pen, to operate the computer?
1：显示屏，如果说用那个笔的话，我感觉比较累，感觉像点到一个点，如果选一个东西的话，可能会选的面积比较大，如果选这个的话，如果不要求你精确，我宁愿用手，但是如果说写字啊，绘图什么的，我愿意用这个，跟那个显示屏大小无所谓，关键是实用性怎么样。
I think that I may feel more tired if I use this pen to operate the monitor, because I have to touch the exact point. For bigger touch area, I prefer to use my fingers if there is not any requirement on precision. For writing or drawing, I would like to use the pen. It has little to do with the monitor. I care more about whether it′s functional.
M：就比如说用这个笔除了绘画，你觉得还有什么你觉得用这个笔不用手，手完成不了的？
What can be done better with this pen instead of fingers, except drawing?
1：在这个上面吗？
On this?
M：对在这个上面。所以你刚刚提到说就比如在那个上面操作的时候，一些基本的，像刚才的那个操作，你不是也用手直接一点，那如果用这个笔你可能会更精细一些动作，那你一下例子，什么样的操作你会喜欢用这个？
Yes. For example, you used your fingers for the operation on this just now. When do you prefer using the pen, like that you would like to use the pen to do precise jobs?
1：选那个其中一个字母，把那个字改一下颜色。写字。
That will be to pick up a letter and paint it. And also to write.
M：如果任你选的话，任你设计的话，一个电脑首先是有键盘，有触屏这样的笔记本电脑，然后它可以一些其他的设施你可以配，其他的配置，比如说有这个触板，还有这个笔，两种笔都可以有，还有这个鼠标，你觉得你会选什么样的组合？
If you design, what kind of computer will you make? A laptop with touchscreen or touchpad or writing pen or both types of the pens or mouse? What′s the set like?
1：我觉得现在挺好的，就是鼠标、键盘。如果说再加一项的话，就是这个触屏。因为它就是说…
I think this one in front of me is pretty good. It has a mouse, a keyboard and maybe a touchscreen, because it....
M：触屏是已经有了。
It already has had the touchscreen.
1：已经有了是吧，触屏已经有了，那就选键盘和鼠标，就这三样就够了，不需要，因为有鼠标。
It It already has had the touchscreen? Then I choose keyboard, mouse and touchscreen. All the three is enough. There is no need. It has a mouse.
M：那个东西也不要了？
You don′t need that?
1：那个东西也不要了，就要这三样就够了。
I don′t need that. Three is enough.
M：那就是如果像你刚才说有鼠标、键盘，还有触盘，触摸屏，那您现在觉得还需要手写笔吗？就不需要了？
So you think it will be good enough if it is equipped with mouse, keyboard and touchscreen. And do you think that the pen is necessary?
1：如果在办公室的话，天天不用拿来拿去，我可能选，但是如果比如说设计师啊，用不了鼠标，就感觉这个，首先这个笔也不贵，放在包里，也可以备上。
I could choose pen for the computer in my office and I don′t need to bring my pen with me every time I go to work. But for designers that cannot use mouse, the pen is a good choice. For one hand, it′s not experience and for the other hand, you can put it in your bag.
M：如果现在就是有这样一个电脑，完了还有就是手写笔，你觉得手写笔是能插到电脑里好呢，还是就是让它们分开，各是各的？
Then where do you think should be the pen stay, inserted in computer or separated from the computer?
1：无线蓝牙，蓝牙。
Bluetooth.
M：不用蓝牙。
No blue tooth.
1：就无线的。
Then wireless.
M：就手写笔，不是鼠标。
Just the hand-writing pen, not mouse.
1：对，就无线的，就是无线的，它可以充电。
Yes, wireless pen with battery.
M：她是说你要不要插进去？
She asked if you think it′s necessary for it to be inserted in the computer?
1：不需要。
It′s unnecessary.
M：它没有蓝牙。这一项就是没有蓝牙，不需要蓝牙的接口。她就是说那个笔啊，像你说的如果能充电，因为它也不是很耗电，像你试的那个软头的根本就不需要电，硬头的那个是放一节电池，在里面就可以很长时间的用，所以她的问题主要是想问你，而且它也不用蓝牙支持，它也不支持蓝牙，如果有这么一个笔，她只想问你说，你是愿意让它分开放，还是把这笔插到电脑里？
It has no blue tooth. It′s not about blue tooth. There is no need for its connector. She explains that the pen you used consume litter power. The one with soft head even don′t need power to work. The hard head one needs only one battery and it can work for a very long time. And what she wants to know if you prefer to put the pen in the computer or separate it from the computer?
1：把它插到电脑里吧，插到电脑里。
I prefer putting it inside the computer.
M：为什么？
Why?
1：因为像那个笔的话，一般的话，基本上是用不到的，如果不插在电脑上的话，可能会丢了。
Because the pen is not frequently used and may get lost if it is not inserted in the computer.
M：你刚刚试用的这两个手写笔，一个是软头的，一个是硬头的，如果打分的话，五分是满分，五分制的话，你能打几分啊，每一个分别打几分？
And what do you think the two types of the pen? They have two different heads. What score can they get, the hard one and the soft one, if five is full mark?
1：各打四分。
Both are four.
M：假如说有一个新出的电脑是触屏的，有键盘，下面有触摸板，还有一个配送的可以插在里面的一个手写笔，你会考虑去买它吗？
Will you buy a laptop of this type, with a touchscreen, a keyboard a touchpad, and a writing pen that can be inserted in the computer ?
1：买啊？如果年轻人应该不会买。
Buy it? I don′t think young people will buy it.
M：什么不会买？
Why not?
1：年轻人可能不会买，商务人士的话可能会买，学生可能不会买。
Young people like students probably won′t buy it, however, business men maybe will buy it.
M：你会买吗？
Will you buy it?
1：我啊，应该会吧，看情况。
Me? Probably yes. It depends.
M：为啥你觉得商务人事可能买啊，有时候年轻人不太会买？
Why do you think young won′t buy it or why business men will buy it?
1：对。
Yes.
M：为啥呢？
Why?
1：因为学生没有那么多钱嘛，这个笔至少应该有两百块钱，三百来块钱，我觉得，学生的话他没有那么多钱，没有钱买这个笔，可能经济也是很重要的。
Because students don′t have spare money for that pen, which may cost two or three hundred. I don′t think students especially when he don′t have much money, will buy the pen. The price is very important.
M：咱们先不说这个手写笔，没有这个，只是一个电脑，它多了一个就这个触屏，整个显示屏是触屏的，你觉得要比普通的电脑贵多少，同样的配置。
Now let′s talk about price of the computer with touchscreen as its whole monitor. How much expensive do you think it will be than common ones? Both are with the same configuration.
1：同样的配置啊？
With the same configuration?
M：嗯，和是换了一种这个触摸屏。
Yes. And with this touchscreen.
1：那得看电脑是什么牌子，对，我觉得。
I will consider its brand. Yes. I think so.
M：比如说就是同样一款的戴尔笔记本电脑，你觉得多少钱你是可以买的，比如说家里的触屏的这个的话多少钱？
Let′s say it′s from DELL. How much are you willing to pay for this computer with touchscreen?
1：只是简单的可以触？
Just ordinary touchscreen?
M：就像这个差不多的。
Just like this one.
1：两千左右吧，不要超过两千，两千左右，最多两千五。
Twenty hundred. No more than twenty hundred. At most twenty-five hundred.
M：你说什么，是这个电脑本身还是多？
You mean the price of the computer or the price difference?
1：多两千，多两千到两千五。
Price difference between twenty hundred and twenty-five hundred.
M：所以她就是说，假如两款电脑都是同样的配置，有一个有触屏的，触屏显示器，然后手上操作的，只能是手上去，不能用手写笔的，另一个电脑是除了这个手上的操作，就是有这样的一个触屏，和这差不多，完了还可以拿手写笔上去写，你觉得这两个价格上的差别会有差价吗，差多少能接受？
And she wants to know what price difference can you accept? If two computer are with the same configuration and the touchscreen, and the only difference is one is with hand writing pen, the other not?
1：一个有笔，一个没笔？
One with writing pen, the other not?
M：嗯。Yes.
1：我不会，像这个笔要花钱买吗。I won′t buy it. Does this pen cost money?
M：什么意思？You mean?
1：就是本来就提供这个笔。It should be provided altogether with other equipment.
M：就是一个是有笔的，你买这里面就能插进去那个笔，一个是没笔的。I mean what′s the price difference between a computer with a writing pen inserted inside and the other computer without a writing pen.
1：差价是吧？
You ask for the price difference?
M：嗯。
Yes.
1：五百以内，对。
Within five hundred. Yes.
M：然后就是还有这两个，咱们刚才说的这两个电脑，一个有笔一个没笔，这样的两个同配置的电脑，给你五分，分别打一个分。
And what score will you give to these two computers: one with writing pen and the other not? And these two has same configuration. Five is full mark.
1：有笔的高一点，有笔打四分，没笔的打三分。The one with pen gets four and the one without gets three.
M：然后她想问一下，就是前面咱们做过的一个比较，一个硬头和一个软头手写笔，你都给了四分，但是你之前在试用硬头的时候，你说这个笔要比那个好多了。然后你是出于什么考虑，还是给它打了同样的分数。
And you give the same score to the two types of pens: the one with hard head and the other with soft head. But when you use the hard head, you said it′s much better than the soft one. Then why you give them same score at last?
1：我是出于它那个不同的情况下不同的功能体现，就是你要用到细的一个操作，也会细头，但是如果说你是简单的，纯粹是娱乐的话，你会用到大头笔，根据不同的人群，比如说你是一个白领，一个上班族，你办公可能会选择，但是比如说我买的电脑回去给我妈用，给我老奶奶用啊什么的，给老人用，我就会选，绝对会选大头笔。
I have considered that it may be used in different situations. For example, if it is for precise job, the pointed head is better, however, the big head is more convenient to use when you just play games. And it differs when facing difference users. If you work at office, you may choose proper one to use. But for my mom or my grandmother, I mean aged people, I will choose big head.
M：那如果先不要管它将来给别人用，别的人群，如果是你自己的话，你怎么打分？
What do you think of them, if it is for yourself? Let′s not talk about other kinds of users.
1：就是粗细。
Then the head matters.
M：就是软的。
The soft one.
1：就是看哪个比较好？
Which one is better?
M：对，就是以你自己的感觉，你能给两个打多少分？她想问你更倾向于选哪个？
Yes. How do you find these two types of pens? She wants to know which one scores higher? Which one you like better?
1：更倾向于细的吧，对。因为我觉得，也没有什么倾向于，但是我还是刚刚那句话，如果你让我更倾向于的话，我感觉没有什么更倾向于的，因为你就是用的不细不粗的，就是说那个太粗了，那个又太细了，你是说我办公的时候，我如果用那个很粗的那肯定不行，如果我只是纯粹的逛逛淘宝什么的，你让我用那个细的点，那就把屏幕点坏了。
I prefer the thin one. Yes. Actually I cannot say I like this more than that one. Just what I have said, it depends. For example, the thick one is not thin enough for precise job and the thin one is not thick enough for leisureliness, such as going shopping on taobao.
M：你觉得钟情，介于它们俩之间的，你觉得是那个笔头粗细呢，还是它们的软硬度？
What aspect will you care more? Its thickness or its softness?
1：笔头的粗细是一方面，然后那个软硬度的话，软硬度可以软一点，软一点比较好。
Thickness is one aspect and I like it could be softer.
M：比如说我们现在改进了，就是一个笔记本电脑完了它有触屏功能，而且它还有一个中型的手写笔，能插在电脑里面，就是成套的一个东西，如果出售的话，在未来一年到一年半当中，你有多大可能性去买它，如果用五分来比的话，五分是绝对会买，一分是我绝对不卖，如果有这款电脑的话。
Will you buy a laptop with a touchscreen and a mid-sized writing pen that can be inserted in computer ? Is it possible that you will buy this type of laptop after one year or one and a half years? Let′s say one is for definitely won′t buy and five is for definitely will buy.
1：就是绝对买和不买两个选项？
There are only two choices: buy or not buy.
M：不是，一到五。
No, one to five. You talk about the possibility.
1：五是绝对买，四分吧。
Five is for definitely will buy. The I give it four.
M：你有什么对于手写笔还有什么样的建议或者是改进啊，或者什么想法啊，有什么？
And do you have any suggestion or thoughts on improving the writing pen?
1：手写笔啊？
On the writing pen?
M：嗯。
Yes.
1：就是不能选，为了一个很小的字，比如说有些字会选不到，我觉得不仅是，就是一个接触面，我觉得把那个笔，那个形状改成一个小的长方形矩形这样，因为它显示屏的话，帮你点击什么，比如你看新闻，点击汉字，形状，笔的形状要改进一下，美国因为它有凹凸的嘛，形状不一样，你如果说一点的话，可能点的难度比较大，就直接就是说小长方形点一下，或者是用一个三角形啊也行，不要用圆的，那个感觉不好，对。
I think there is something that need improvement. It′s not easy to pick up the character. Sometimes I cannot pick up the word that I want to. What′s more, the shape of the head need to be improved. When you click on the monitor, for example, you are reading news and you want to click one word, it′s not easy. The English letters is different from Chinese characters. I think triangle or rectangle is better than round ball. It doesn′t feel good. Yes.
M：目前还有什么，你觉得还可以更好一点或者是哪儿，你觉得更好一些？
And what others do you think need improvement?
1：收缩的最好是这么大，不要占太大地方。
I think it will be better if it can draw back. Then it won′t take up too much space.
M：你是说这么长吗？
You mean the length?
1：对。
Yes.
M：缩进去。If it can shrink.
1：对，缩进去这么长，不要占用太多地方。材料啊，就是材料要防滑，就是夏天用手上会有很多汗水。就是那个它比较滑嘛。
Yes. It can draw back to this strength to save up space. And the material need to be anti-skidding. You know, people sweat a lot in summer. It is so easy to slip.
M：谢谢。（英文）Thank you.
1：没错没错。That′s all right.
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